--- title: Curate, Connect, Close Better Contacts With Kuration AI description: Aurelien Vasinis demos Kuration AI on The CRM Sushi Podcast with Wes Schaeffer, The Business Fixer image: https://thesaleswhisperer.com/hubfs/Blog_Featured_Images/pexels-8386434.jpg --- [Skip to content](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/crm-sushi-kuration-ai#main-content) [![Wes Schaeffer is The Sales Whisperer®](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/hs-fs/hubfs/wes-header-lockup.png?width=1560&height=360&name=wes-header-lockup.png)](https://www.thesaleswhisperer.com/) - Work With Me Show submenu for Work With Me - [Fix Your Follow-Up](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/follow-up) - [Best Day Ever](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/best-day-ever) - [HANK The AI](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/hank) - [12 Weeks To Peak™](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/12-weeks-to-peak) - [48-Hour Fix](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/48-hour-fix) - [Start](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/start) - [Blog](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog) - [The Daily](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/daily) - 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[About](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/about) - [Get The Daily](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/daily) [Get The Daily](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/daily) Nov 08, 2024 # Curate, Connect, Close Better Contacts With Kuration AI ![Picture of Wes Schaeffer](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Wes%20Schaeffer%2c%20The%20Sales%20Whisperer%20black%20white.png?width=50&name=Wes%20Schaeffer%2c%20The%20Sales%20Whisperer%20black%20white.png) [Wes Schaeffer](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/author/wes-schaeffer) Share: [facebook-f icon](http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/crm-sushi-kuration-ai) [linkedin-in icon](http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=true&url=https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/crm-sushi-kuration-ai) [Twitter icon](https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/crm-sushi-kuration-ai) [pinterest-p icon](http://pinterest.com/pin/create/link/?url=https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/crm-sushi-kuration-ai) [envelope icon](mailto:?body=https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/crm-sushi-kuration-ai)   [![Listed to The Sales Podcast on Spotify](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/443614/interactive-185369604869.png)](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/hs/cta/wi/redirect?encryptedPayload=AVxigLLIKgQe2WL6H9jQtvla5rawbJN2UC%2FnUkaZ%2FCD%2FURPuaL4nsiLkvUxTrB2nRzj4xWPE2KJU416R5OnpPxPPusgZrNdVOACDZvWIf3EdaVBgdxSMS1d%2Fon5012lRoXVVqW1if6xB1%2FttcHGzlaBrDqzkGUnf9XKLS9C77x70VXzBPcnTe9DmIorIVlMGvx1NGVeSW8hYD7MIexmtOHX8Yhcn&webInteractiveContentId=185369604869&portalId=443614)   - Political science background, so he's not technical by training - Distributed teams - Agents leverage LLMs to trigger subsequent and sequential LLMs and even select the LLMs needed to achieve the desired goals - One agent can be used just to interact with you, the human. - Another agent can be used just to scrape sites. - How Kuration AI is different from Clay... - When you have better targeting, you don't have to be so dependent upon cold email. - Start with your parameters...job boards, CSV, Google Map, etc.   [![See Why I Recommend This $15 CRM to Everyone...](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/443614/interactive-122574935953.png)](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/hs/cta/wi/redirect?encryptedPayload=AVxigLI4QkZRQOk%2BmVWVXiK7R5UqBJ7eAvfODNs41Z95JlqGIRrm9cRvyPhxmgSbdEOJ5CoVIVi5uhN7qqnhv2gy%2ByFpzkLz11jI7ORCgEdsA8HsPTR8LWyN7v18hJdR%2BFexoxAt688%2F6Pgm7eX4V2so0%2BGcrLDwj5axxE8grHiAjzZlZWiRau3GNFjNZDKJg4cGJw7wyAf7oCTqKqxeMjmYpHw%3D&webInteractiveContentId=122574935953&portalId=443614)   - He worked in a sausage factory, and it was all the same sausage, just white-labeled. - There are only a few big data providers. - He's not trying to build or maintain a database. - He wants to be the best at core research and to be as simple as possible. - Great for small teams. - He's his first customer. - He has done a lot of cold email. - He'd prefer not to do cold email, but it's a good way to verify early assumptions. - Clay is powerful, but it's like Photoshop to Canva. - The things that work are the things people don't do. - You need the data, the channel, and the message. - Be creative and distinctive and hustle. ### Watch Previous Episodes of [The CRM Sushi Podcast](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/crm-sushi) **GUEST INFO:** - Guest Site: https://www.kurationai.com/ - Guest LinkedIn: [https://www.linkedin.com/company/kuration-ai/](https://www.linkedin.com/company/kuration-ai/) - Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vasinis/ **PODCAST INFO:** - [Need a sales keynote? 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