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# Nail The Sales Conversation To Accelerate Sales Enablement, John Reid

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## **[Sales Enablement Tips](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/introduction-to-sales-enablement)**you'll learn today on **[The Sales Podcast](https://www.thesaleswhisperer.com/podcast)**...

- Sales tips have not evolved since 1983
- Most sales "stuff" is driven from a model
- We become zealots of "the model" because "the model has to be the answer"
- [Sales enablement](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/jason-loh-sales-enablement) today is not about the model
- [Belief systems](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/to-sell-more-check-your-limiting-beliefs-at-the-door/) drive sales behaviors
- The world does not need another [sales model](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/get-the-abcde-video) but models are good
- Skill vs Will
- Most sales professionals believe they are good at relationship building
- Most sales professionals are wrong

 See " **[Sales Enablement 101 (That Means No B.S.)](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/introduction-to-sales-enablement)**"

- The Mentalizer's Paradox
- Salespeople are not trained properly
- Salespeople are unaware 
    - How many won deals because your customer liked you?
    - How many lost deals because your customer didn't like you?
- You use weak words
- You're afraid of being told no
- You're afraid of the answer
- You're afraid of re-building the pipeline
- You're afraid of not being liked
- We're [emotional beings](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/behaviorly-evelyn-gosnell/) who think 
    - Needing purpose
- Don't bring donuts, bring insight
- Manage, don't coach 
    - Coaching is seen as negative

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- The learning objective is not the answer. The improved behavior is the answer.
- Be learner-focused. They should do most of the talking. It's all about them.
- There's too much emphasis on "liking" vs. trusting and respecting
- Desire with no discipline is worthless
- [Insight + Humility takes Rigor](https://www.thesaleswhisperer.com/meetings/wes15)
- Most people want a thinking partner, not the answer
- Give them an idea
- Challenger model is hubris
- Priming
- You still must master the art of controlling the conversation
- Questions are always the answer
- When you talk you create objections!
- Get comfortable with being vulnerable 
    - "N.B.O. (New Business Opportunities)" Ask if you're confused
- Be brief. Be good. Be gone.
- Once you get high, stay high.
- Don't ask permission. "Hey, I'm going to be meeting with your boss. Anything you'd like me to bring up with your boss?"
- Expand your curiosity.
- Out-understand your competitors. Only 11% of customers believe salespeople understand their needs.

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- [Go Beyond Sales Enablement To Engage The Modern Buyer, Matt Suggs](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/matt-suggs-beyond-sales-enablement)

## Links Mentioned In [The Sales Podcast](https://www.thesaleswhisperer.com/podcast)

- Visit [John Reid's home on the web](https://jmreidgroup.com/)
- Order John Reid's book "[Moving from Models to Mindsets: Rethinking the Sales Conversation](https://amzn.to/2W4HpFr)"
- "[Don't Talk To The Police](https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE)"

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