--- title: Ontraport Founder Landon Ray - Sales and Marketing Interview description: Increase your sales and improve your marketing, listen to my interview with Ontraport founder Landon Ray now! image: https://thesaleswhisperer.com/hubfs/Blog-files/Landon%20Ray%20Wes%20Schaeffer%20Modern%20Ontrapreneur.png --- [Skip to content](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/ontraport-founder-landon-ray-sales-and-marketing-interview#main-content) [![Wes Schaeffer is The Sales Whisperer®](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/hs-fs/hubfs/wes-header-lockup.png?width=1560&height=360&name=wes-header-lockup.png)](https://www.thesaleswhisperer.com/) - Work With Me Show submenu for Work With Me - [Fix Your Follow-Up](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/follow-up) - [Best Day Ever](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/best-day-ever) - [HANK The AI](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/hank) - [12 Weeks To Peak™](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/12-weeks-to-peak) - [48-Hour Fix](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/48-hour-fix) - [Start](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/start) - [Blog](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog) - [The Daily](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/daily) - [Speaking](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/sales-keynote-speaker) - [Podcast](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/podcast) Show submenu for Podcast - [Podcast Guests](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/podcast-guests) - [About](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/about) Open main navigation Close main navigation - Work With Me Show submenu for Work With Me - [Fix Your Follow-Up](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/follow-up) - [Best Day Ever](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/best-day-ever) - [HANK The AI](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/hank) - [12 Weeks To Peak™](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/12-weeks-to-peak) - [48-Hour Fix](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/48-hour-fix) - [Start](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/start) - [Blog](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog) - [The Daily](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/daily) - [Speaking](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/sales-keynote-speaker) - [Podcast](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/podcast) Show submenu for Podcast - [Podcast Guests](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/podcast-guests) - [About](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/about) - [Get The Daily](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/daily) [Get The Daily](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/daily) Jun 13, 2025 # Ontraport Founder Landon Ray - Sales and Marketing Interview ![Picture of Wes Schaeffer](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Wes%20Schaeffer%2c%20The%20Sales%20Whisperer%20black%20white.png?width=50&name=Wes%20Schaeffer%2c%20The%20Sales%20Whisperer%20black%20white.png) [Wes Schaeffer](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/author/wes-schaeffer) Share: [facebook-f icon](http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/ontraport-founder-landon-ray-sales-and-marketing-interview) [linkedin-in icon](http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=true&url=https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/ontraport-founder-landon-ray-sales-and-marketing-interview) [Twitter icon](https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/ontraport-founder-landon-ray-sales-and-marketing-interview) [pinterest-p icon](http://pinterest.com/pin/create/link/?url=https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/ontraport-founder-landon-ray-sales-and-marketing-interview) [envelope icon](mailto:?body=https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/ontraport-founder-landon-ray-sales-and-marketing-interview)   Ontraport Founder and CEO [Landon Ray](https://thesaleswhisperer.com/blog/ontraport-5-crm-review) and I sat down during Digital Marketer's Traffic and Conversion and we got into why "Sales and Marketing Are NOT Mutually Exclusive." 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