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 Apr 27, 2022

# How To Fix Your Crappy Demos To Make Bigger Sales Faster, Yoav Vilner

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- Use the turmoil and chaos as an opportunity
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- When people are worried about sales, they are more discerning with their spend
- Demos are always dangerous
- Demos can be complex and time-consuming
- Sales teams are thrown to the wolves to do the demo correctly

 

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- Yoav launched and it was a top product on Product Hunt
- 200 press articles in their first 18 months
- The landscape is in need of good demo tools

> Demos are always dangerous."

- Hired a VP of Sales
- They had two founders and a developer
- VP of Sales hit up his peers to get additional validation
- VP of Sales started selling as well
- Had a $6 million seed
- Got $2.5 million up front

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- People change their minds on what's a good idea when you send them an invoice
- They asked prospects about their challenges to see what they described as their friction and issues
- It's a great tool for SaaS solutions
- Drag n Drop demos
- Add prospect logos
- Not great for mobile apps
- Won't break because you're not connected to the backend
- Demo typical use cases

> People change their minds on what's a good idea when you send them an invoice."

- He and his co-founder both had startup experience
- Raised $56 million in total
- He had to move fast in hyper-growth mode to shift the market
- Has over 100 employees now with over 100 big clients
- Be bold, move fast, break things
- The market perceives them as the leader
- Getting over 1,000 inbound leads/mo now
- Came out of stealth on the high end of the pricing spectrum and it worked
- Constantly test, experiment, and research

> Go high on your pricing to establish your value in the marketplace."

- Focus and demand can put pressure on you to accept less-than-ideal clients
- His product team is organized and does not allow noise to interfere with decisions

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